Forum organization

[kwshaw1]

I'm glad to see the new forums up and running, but the organizational structure looks like it needs some work. Splitting things by user type with duplicate forums for various products will make it harder for all users to find relevant info, and clutters the forum list. Also, I don't see separate forums yet for products like Imaginate, etc. For what it's worth, here's one suggestion on how to organize the forums before the current structure becomes status quo:

Software:
- Edius Pro
- Edius Broadcast
- Procoder
- Imaginate
- VideoFX

Hardware:
- Editing systems
- ACEDVio
- Indigo AV Mixer
- Video Conversion (ADVC)
- Scan Conversion
- Video Encoding
- MediaEdge
- Playback Decks
- Rev Pro

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Note: I pretty much just copied this from the Canopus products list web page, with a little reorganization to reflect how users are likely to look for things.

[GrassValley_MD]

The structure was discussed at length but we are always open to suggestions :)

Thanks

Mike

[Bart]

My first impression is that the contents of the "Desktop/Professional users" and the "Broadcast industry users" is redundant. (no significant difference in contents)

I'm also missing Imaginate ... I do like the suggestion above.

Organise a poll to improve the structure?


BTW: good that this forum is back!

[GrassValley_MD]

My first impression is that the contents of the "Desktop/Professional users" and the "Broadcast industry users" is redundant. (no significant difference in contents)

I'm also missing Imaginate ... I do like the suggestion above.

Organise a poll to improve the structure?


BTW: good that this forum is back!


We are discussing the suggestions and any options. :)


Mike

[GrassValley_KH]

Currently the forum only covers products that:

a) are current
b) are formerly-Canopus, now branded-Grass Valley products

While we anticipate there being potential for other GV products to enter the fray, this may not happen for some time (and as such, needs approval etc, etc.) There is still a possibility for two separate forums - one for the Professional/Desktop market (which encompasses the pre-acquistion Canopus market), and a Broadcast-products oriented forum.

As Mike said, things are flexible - consider this a trial period. Our focus is on concise, information-heavy content.

As for Imaginate, the jury is out on this. It's no longer in "development" as such, nor does it have Grass Valley branding, but is still available and there's plenty of people who still use it. That said, the most traffic on the Imaginate forum in the last couple of months simply revolved around "Any news on a new version?"

At this stage, there are no concrete plans to continue the Imaginate line. This may change, but I would probably put my money on that technology being reused elsewhere (like say, in a future version of EDIUS).

We'll have a chat, and if it's kosher, put up a poll.

[Jason Ramsey]

I'm digging the new layout. More familiar feeling, and less confusing. Haven't had a chance to browse too much, but I could see the issue with having redundant categories as mentioned above. Information could get spread across the two sections... which might not be so good for organization.

Anyways, I did it. Thanks. Here's to hoping the atmosphere here is as improved as the look of the forum.

Jason

[GrassValley_KH]

One possible avenue we may explore after the first couple of weeks is change the Broadcast forum to a separate community that resides here, but remains "off the chart". Gaining access would be through a separate application process.

[kwshaw1]

One possible avenue we may explore after the first couple of weeks is change the Broadcast forum to a separate community that resides here, but remains "off the chart". Gaining access would be through a separate application process.

I like that idea better than having redundant forums in one community. I also think it's a mistake to separate "broadcast" users from everyone else, but I suspect that decision won't change. If you're going to do that, might as well make it a separate community.

[THoff]

One possible avenue we may explore after the first couple of weeks is change the Broadcast forum to a separate community that resides here, but remains "off the chart". Gaining access would be through a separate application process.If you do that, I hope you will grant non-members readonly access to the forums. There will undoubtedly be information there that is relevant to all of us.

[Mike Truly]

I definitely don't want knowledgebases to become restricted.

But here's a color suggestion. I like the readability of most of the new look, but the bright neon green is a bit distracting for me especially in the area of the big bars between posts. It's like my eyes are having problems as I try to read the text (which I like) but then there's these bright neon green bars that sort of overpower and mess with my eyes. I don't mind the color, but I would like to see the brightness dropped by like 25% or something.

Just my two cents.

Thanks!

[vienna1944er]

Please, excuse my miserable english......

Please, compare following two examples for "Quote" ..... and replay the better human readable version
who version minimice "eye-irritation" for you.


Version 1 = current forum standard with letters
[I]While we anticipate there being potential for other GV products to enter the fray, this may not happen for some time (and as such, needs approval etc, etc.) There is still a possibility for two separate forums - one for the Professional/Desktop market (which encompasses the pre-acquistion Canopus market), and a Broadcast-products oriented forum.

As Mike said, things are flexible - consider this a trial period. Our focus is on concise, information-heavy content.

As for Imaginate, the jury is out on this. It's no longer in "development" as such, nor does it have Grass Valley branding, but is still available and there's plenty of people who still use it. That said, the most traffic on the Imaginate forum in the last couple of months simply revolved around "Any news on a new version?"

At this stage, there are no concrete plans to continue the Imaginate line. This may change, but I would probably put my money on that technology being reused elsewhere (like say, in a future version of EDIUS).



Version 2 = without [Italic] letters
While we anticipate there being potential for other GV products to enter the fray, this may not happen for some time (and as such, needs approval etc, etc.) There is still a possibility for two separate forums - one for the Professional/Desktop market (which encompasses the pre-acquistion Canopus market), and a Broadcast-products oriented forum.

As Mike said, things are flexible - consider this a trial period. Our focus is on concise, information-heavy content.

As for Imaginate, the jury is out on this. It's no longer in "development" as such, nor does it have Grass Valley branding, but is still available and there's plenty of people who still use it. That said, the most traffic on the Imaginate forum in the last couple of months simply revolved around "Any news on a new version?"

At this stage, there are no concrete plans to continue the Imaginate line. This may change, but I would probably put my money on that technology being reused elsewhere (like say, in a future version of EDIUS).


friendly greeting from europe\austria\vienna ..... old Hans ...with old [but no broken] eyes..... ;-)

[antonsvideo]

I would also like to suggest that this forum is missing the breadcrumb navigation at the bottom, basically, the navigation structure at top should be duplicated at the bottom like on all other forums

[drgagx]

So far I have sometimes missed the...
"More replies below current depth",
whereas it is always clear if the thread goes on to pages 2, 3 etc.
Is this something I can cure by choosing a different setting?

[jonandmarkuk]

As for Imaginate, the jury is out on this. It's no longer in "development" as such, nor does it have Grass Valley branding, but is still available and there's plenty of people who still use it. That said, the most traffic on the Imaginate forum in the last couple of months simply revolved around "Any news on a new version?"


I do hope that Imaginate isn't a retired product as I use it a lot and the discussions in the old forum did suggest that a new version was being looked at. At the moment it seems that Grass Valley are only interested in Procoder and Edius which is a shame for all the other products.
I really do hope they reconsider Imaginate as Grass Valley / Canopus seem to have 'retired' so many products recently it makes me wonder what will be retired next.

[harveylexton]

There are still a lot of Xplode, Storm, Photo album, etc users out there and also a listing of items for sale.

It would be nice to see this again for those that need it.

Also there was also another where people could post there work and explain how they did it.

[harveylexton]

It is very hard on the eyes after a while to read white text on black. I feel you may get a lot of feed back on this, also quite right the gaudy colour banners are also a bit bright.

I know it takes a bit of getting used to, but I must say I don't think I could read the forum for long. The original forum was a lot easier on the eyes.

[Mike Truly]

Hans,

The italics are definitely harder for me to read than the regular.

Thanks!

[BruceCar]

I definitely don't want knowledgebases to become restricted.

But here's a color suggestion. I like the readability of most of the new look, but the bright neon green is a bit distracting for me especially in the area of the big bars between posts. It's like my eyes are having problems as I try to read the text (which I like) but then there's these bright neon green bars that sort of overpower and mess with my eyes. I don't mind the color, but I would like to see the brightness dropped by like 25% or something.

Just my two cents.

Thanks!

Wow!!! I like the green thick line separating posts...helps keep me focused.
Just the old Chocolate and vanilla thing... :)

Bruce

[DigitalDave]

One possible avenue we may explore after the first couple of weeks is change the Broadcast forum to a separate community that resides here, but remains "off the chart". Gaining access would be through a separate application process.


It is not working as it is at present. There is already one thread started that is obviously from someone who is not in broadcast.

PM me if you want details

[Mike Truly]

Bruce,

I too like the green thick line separating posts. And I also like how it separates posts. What I don't like is how bright it is when it comes to reading text that is adjacent to it. It could be about 25-50% darker and it would still serve the same purpose, just without the distraction.

Just my opinion.

Thanks!

[Ron Shook]

Anton,

I would also like to suggest that this forum is missing the breadcrumb navigation at the bottom, basically, the navigation structure at top should be duplicated at the bottom like on all other forums

Agreed. Thought of mentioning that myself.

Ron Shook

[kingfeng]

Study!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arcuk73]

Dont have a for sale area any more..

Neither is the gallery?

[arcuk73]

Automated emails need sorting out as well..

Dear arcuk73,

Thanks for registering at Forum Index! We are glad you have chosen to be a part
of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.

All the best,
Forum Index



only in the email address can you tell its from GV a small minor detail :D

[peterC]

1) heavy colours like being used now are a l/t vision killer. Proven lights are better as in old forums

2) Agree. We need an end of thread/bottom of page return to the main index of the cat. we are in

[peterC]

Oh and...
1) hold the page u r on eg p2, rather than reverting back to last post page (1st). Am I missing a setting on this one?

2) last post entered on a thread vs initial post. Am I missing a setting on this one too?

[peterC]

Ok got 2), any help on 1)?

[peterC]

MMMMMM.......2) doesn't 'stick' once set........

[danothemano]

Mr. Sparkle, don't tell me you guys trashed the old database. It held a lot of valuable (Imaginate, ADVC 300) information for me and I'm sure many others.

[Hitecrd]

I'd prefer to see the old form or at least its format back. Just first impression but I don't like this one....

[Ron Shook]

Just first impression but I don't like this one....

My thought at first but I'm warming up to it. It's more complex in many, mostly good, ways. I suggest that you click the FAQ box at the top and go to the FAQs about how the forum works. There are now many things I prefer here and other than not having navigation at the bottom of the thread as well as the top, only one thing that serious bugs me.

I could be wrong, but didn't the old forum have cookies to keep track of what you'd already looked at, so that when coming back to the thread later it would take you back to that point in the thread so that you didn't have to search for where you left off? Maybe my memory's fuzzy but I find myself searching too much through what I've already read on a long thread.

Anyone have further thoughts on this or can correct me if I'm off-base?

Ron Shook

[GrassValley_KH]

Anyone have further thoughts on this or can correct me if I'm off-base?

I think I follow you - there's an option on Forum/Thread marking as 'read' which is currently session-cookie based. Other options are database-driven, which most forums use.

I can't switch this option without discussion with the server admin, since it affects space and processing.

Stay tuned.